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Filthy's s2k
04-16-2008, 08:57 PM
Looks like my clutch has a little less than half life left according to my dealer. Service manager
said they would install any clutch, since they dont warranty clutches anyway. Im staying N/A
so i need some reccomendations on which clutch kit i should consider getting.

Thanks to all

gomarlins3
04-16-2008, 09:50 PM
I like HTG's set up.

medicalstudent
04-16-2008, 10:15 PM
well, oem clutch would be ok, but if you're looking for something different, I liked the ACT clutch I had. The Mugen clutch I had was pretty good too.

repiv
04-16-2008, 11:24 PM
little less than half life left
This is still a lot of clutch left. I changed mine at 45,000 miles and the clutch disc could have been good for another 30K or so. I changed it with the HTguy clutch kit because I wanted more clamping force of the ACT HD PP.
If you are strapped for money, machine the flywheel, get a new OEM disc, new OEM TO bearing and get the ACT HD PP.

PuppyPolice01
04-17-2008, 02:42 AM
ACT all the way

Rocketman
04-17-2008, 02:51 AM
ACT HD PP w/ OEM disc and bearings.

s2k_at_17
04-17-2008, 04:53 AM
im at 106k with factory clutch and as sean knows...i dont know if mine is going out or not :nervous: but when it does or gets close(if im not there already) i was thinking just going with factory again...it seems ok to me:think:

anyone thoughts on this?

repiv
04-17-2008, 05:07 AM
im at 106k with factory clutch and as sean knows...i dont know if mine is going out or not :nervous: but when it does or gets close(if im not there already) i was thinking just going with factory again...it seems ok to me:think:

anyone thoughts on this?

Are you the original owner? If not, do you know if it's the original clutch? If it's not the original clutch, do you know how long this one has lasted so far?
There are tests you can do to see if the clutch is nearing the end of the line. You can go up a good hill in a gear that would put the rpm at around 4000, then punch it. Does it slip? Or you can drive along a straight, level stretch of road at 4000 rpm and maintain throttle as you brake. Does the rpm come down as the car slows down or can you keep the rpm at 4000?
If the OEM clutch has served you well for a good amount of mileage, then sure, stay with it. If you get slippage when you drive briskly, then consider a HD PP.

s2k_at_17
04-17-2008, 05:19 AM
Are you the original owner? If not, do you know if it's the original clutch? If it's not the original clutch, do you know how long this one has lasted so far?
There are tests you can do to see if the clutch is nearing the end of the line. You can go up a good hill in a gear that would put the rpm at around 4000, then punch it. Does it slip? Or you can drive along a straight, level stretch of road at 4000 rpm and maintain throttle as you brake. Does the rpm come down as the car slows down or can you keep the rpm at 4000?
If the OEM clutch has served you well for a good amount of mileage, then sure, stay with it. If you get slippage when you drive briskly, then consider a HD PP.

im not the original owner..but when i got the car the millage was at like 40k if that..

on the hill test...just get the car to 4k rpm (safely) and punch it...if it slips, the rpms will go higher but i will not move much faster correct?

i know one time this was last year in like september...i stoped at a stop sign and then took off(didnt lonch) and took it to about 8.5k and shifted to 2nd and when i did the rpms when all the way to redline (just as if i was like reving my engine with the clutch in)....and the car didnt go any faster...then i put back in the clutch and took it out of second, then put it back into second and it hasnt happend sence

also what is HD PP??

smac2K
04-17-2008, 06:02 AM
I have no idea what HD PP stands for, but I have one (because someone said buy it) and it :rockon: :beavisbutthead:

You're symptoms you just described...That means the clutch is gone...over...time for some $$$$$ for the ACT :yep:

kwando
04-17-2008, 06:03 AM
HD = Heavy Duty
PP = Pressure plate

repiv
04-17-2008, 06:41 AM
on the hill test...just get the car to 4k rpm (safely) and punch it...if it slips, the rpms will go higher but i will not move much faster correct?

i know one time this was last year in like september...i stoped at a stop sign and then took off(didnt lonch) and took it to about 8.5k and shifted to 2nd and when i did the rpms when all the way to redline (just as if i was like reving my engine with the clutch in)....and the car didnt go any faster...then i put back in the clutch and took it out of second, then put it back into second and it hasnt happend sence

Correct. The rpm goes up unusually faster than your road speed.

Doing a rapid high rpm shift and not "hooking up" doesn't necessarily mean your clutch is gone. All that means is that your technique "might" be off (such as if you didn't take your foot off the gas at the right time or not at all. This would not be a true test since there are other variables at work.

If in doubt, it is wise to do a clutch job rather than risking wearing the disc material down to the rivets. When this happens, the rivets will cut into the flywheel, necessitating a new flywheel, where you might be able to re-use it by machining it.

Filthy's s2k
04-17-2008, 03:38 PM
I guess i have poor driving habits, my car is an 04 bought new and has 25k miles on it.
I dont do 6000 rpm launches but i do drive it pretty hard on the country roads. Clutch seems
still have plenty of bite, but lets out near the top.

Terror
04-17-2008, 03:41 PM
I thought that adding a Pressure plate and not a stronger clutch disk, could cause crank walk? Or is the HD PP just like stock with a bit more grab?

repiv
04-17-2008, 06:40 PM
I thought that adding a Pressure plate and not a stronger clutch disk, could cause crank walk? Or is the HD PP just like stock with a bit more grab?

That's exactly what it is. All fully manual cars have a pressure plate. The ACT just has stronger springs. Having more clamping force will actually help the OEM clutch disc last longer. As for crank walk, I don't think the additional clamping force on an ACT is enough to cause undue stress on the crank movement fore and aft. Since it's clamped to the flywheel, the only time the PP is going to pull on the crank is when it's disengaged and the extra 40% to 50% higher spring tension of the ACT isn't really all that much.

Terror
04-17-2008, 08:29 PM
Well, you have just talked me into going with the HTG Clutch setup! :thumbup:

s2k_at_17
04-18-2008, 06:28 AM
ok...so i did the hill test. took it to 4k and smashed it.............and she took off!!!! :lol: im think im still good then