View Full Version : What can I add to my car performance wise?
01s2000
10-18-2007, 01:41 AM
Ok heres the thing, I want to get more power out of my car without messing with the warranty I have on it. I know I can't get that much power out of it without touching the warranty. But what performance parts can I add to my 01 S2000 to make it that much faster. All the help and things I can do will be great. Thanks guys to whoever answers.
Vorlon
10-18-2007, 01:42 AM
Actually if you read the fine print on the extended warranty, it says ANY modification will void it. =/ Lame, I know.
My_yella_s2k
10-18-2007, 01:44 AM
an s2kca membership is the first and best mod i have ever done....
pays for itself once you click the button....
love it!
01s2000
10-18-2007, 01:54 AM
Damn really. I didn't read the warranty. Even an exhaust. Man that really sucks!
Slow2Know
10-18-2007, 02:00 AM
Damn really. I didn't read the warranty. Even an exhaust. Man that really sucks!
Its a Honda... Just Do It!
stantaur
10-18-2007, 02:45 AM
You can tiptoe around the "Geez, will I mess up my warranty" pool with intake/exhaust tweaks...
Or you can CANNONBALL it with a GT3076R turbo and never look back. :D
Whatever else breaks, upgrade.
I celebrated my warranty expiration with boost. Not much beats having a flat torque curve from 5K to 9K with this car’s fit, finish, handling, styling, reliability, etc. Only regret is that I should have gone turbo sooner.
s2ksuzuka
10-18-2007, 03:47 AM
You can tiptoe around the "Geez, will I mess up my warranty" pool with intake/exhaust tweaks...
Or you can CANNONBALL it with a GT3076R turbo and never look back. :D
Whatever else breaks, upgrade.
I celebrated my warranty expiration with boost. Not much beats having a flat torque curve from 5K to 9K with this car’s fit, finish, handling, styling, reliability, etc. Only regret is that I should have gone turbo sooner.
I did the same thing, the month my warranty ran out, I went S/C couldn't be happier. Here is the thing with adding parts to your car. If you add things to the car and it breaks, Honda has to tell you how your mod, contributed to breaking the car. I had Honda install my ACT Pressure plate and replace my clutch at 15 K cause the factory pressure plate went bad. They blamed me for the bad clutch, when they removed the clutch from the car there were ) signs of abuse, they ate the labor for installing my after market clutch parts. After that I went with an exhaust and intake and never looked back. I also never had a problem with the dealer when they had the car
Mitch.
repiv
10-18-2007, 04:15 PM
If you add things to the car and it breaks, Honda has to tell you how your mod, contributed to breaking the car.
This applies ONLY to the factory warranty. The extended warranty is considered a 3rd party warranty (even if sold and labelled "Honda"). ANY modification (even different lugnuts), by the discretion of the warranty holder, can void ALL aspects of the car's coverage.
Chelsea1
10-18-2007, 04:25 PM
If its a bolt on you can ALWAYS keep stock and slap them back on, no one will know the different.
s2k_at_17
10-18-2007, 04:25 PM
You can tiptoe around the "Geez, will I mess up my warranty" pool with intake/exhaust tweaks...
Or you can CANNONBALL it with a GT3076R turbo and never look back. :D
:lol: :lol:
medicalstudent
10-18-2007, 06:11 PM
wow, I'm surprised I haven't seen the "track" response yet.
If you're concerned about your warranty but want to make the car quicker, the first mod is the driver. Take it to a high-performance driver's education and learn how to drive the car quickly on a racetrack. That will make you quicker without voiding the warranty.
I guess if you have to mod something without voiding the warranty, mod the tires as that could help you corner quickly.
I've got tons of suggestions for modding in general, but if warranty is an issue, best to leave the car alone.
gomarlins3
10-18-2007, 06:23 PM
Unless you are going with gears, ITB, or boost, you won't get much from any mod you do and both of those will effect your warrenty.
stantaur
10-18-2007, 06:29 PM
Echoing what Medicalstudent says -- definitely the driver. Look up the Evolution Schools for intense 2-3 day courses in your own car in a controlled environment with SCCA national champion instructors one one one.
DE events are also good -- NASA, The Driver's Edge, PCA, NTS2KOC, etc. put these on at Hallett, MSR-Cresson, TWS...
RE-01Rs or RT-615s if you like street tires (highly recommend 17s, since you can squeeze 245/275 with AP2 wheels).
Drop weight from the exhaust too -- Mugen is my fave on a non-boosted car. Legal in Stock class along with larger front bar if you run R compounds 225 / 245 or 225 / 265 combo on 16s.
Dropping into Street Prep territory, you can do intake, header, coil-overs, rear bar.
Comptech recently moved ahead of AEM V2 in the latest intake tests, although not by much. http://www.tprmag.com/issue/1/ca-results.shtml
Header is debatable -- still puts you in B Street Prep for SCCA (along with intake), but there are some nice designs that may help midrange or shave weight, but once you pull the exhaust mani, you're half way there to a turbo install IMHO...
Jack Broughton
10-18-2007, 07:42 PM
:confused: I just looked at the site that tested the CAIs and noticed the test car was not a S2000. Come to think of it, not many after market quantified test use the S2000 as the base vehicle. Perhaps I have simply missed such test. If any one has knowledge of actual quantified S2000 aftermarket add on tests, I for one would appreciate a little direction.
medicalstudent
10-18-2007, 07:48 PM
I'm sure a lot of websites that sell CAIs will have their own dynos and data, but very few head-to-head comparisons and difficult to really do it based on quantifiable statistics.
In general, you won't get much gains with a CAI. You'll like get a range between -5 to +5 hp depending on which intake you get. You might get a bit of increased throttle response depending on the intake, but that might only be noticeable on the track.
Rocketman
10-18-2007, 08:00 PM
wow, I'm surprised I haven't seen the "track" response yet.
If you're concerned about your warranty but want to make the car quicker, the first mod is the driver. Take it to a high-performance driver's education and learn how to drive the car quickly on a racetrack. That will make you quicker without voiding the warranty.
I guess if you have to mod something without voiding the warranty, mod the tires as that could help you corner quickly.
I've got tons of suggestions for modding in general, but if warranty is an issue, best to leave the car alone.
I got the impression that he wants Westheimer fast as opposed to TWS fast. :shifter:
1st07inOH
10-18-2007, 08:05 PM
wow, I'm surprised I haven't seen the "track" response yet.
If you're concerned about your warranty but want to make the car quicker, the first mod is the driver. Take it to a high-performance driver's education and learn how to drive the car quickly on a racetrack. That will make you quicker without voiding the warranty.
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:thumbup: :thumbup:
I don't know you or your abilities so don't take this the wrong way, I am speaking more about myself and personal experience level.
But I feel Honda did a great job, personally the weak link when I take mine out is ME! I would say learn to drive it to it's fullest extent first then mod what you feel you have to. Thats my plan, fix myself (driving skill set) then, if need be, fix the car.
Just my 2 cents
medicalstudent
10-18-2007, 08:06 PM
I got the impression that he wants Westheimer fast as opposed to TWS fast. :shifter:
I have all sorts of recommendations, but it's useless if he's concerned about voiding the warranty with aftermarket parts :)
desmo4
10-18-2007, 08:35 PM
I went to Laguna Seca with my car in 2003. It was only at that time I noticed how much body roll it had. In most cases you can't drive the car at 10 tenths on the street so you wont find the faults. That said, I echo the other posts, take a high performance driving class first. After that, you can make a determination as to worry about the warranty or not.
Jonathan
photodavo
10-29-2007, 08:13 AM
Off topic - but I would like to see you post here Chris D. I met you once at one of the North Texas holiday parties at the Temmings. You, David, Al, Mark, Canadice, Dave, etc. I just think we could all benefit from your knowledge sir, :thumbsup:
equinoxiq
10-29-2007, 01:28 PM
I imagine most people who look for mod advice never actually take to heart the advice for learning how to drive. From what i've seen, nobody out there has a true natural born ability to drive quickly (and safely) right off the bat. They just have balls. Timing and finding the line is an acquired skill that comes from experience only. And it's just that some people learn it better than others (this is where natural talent comes in). However, if you do decide to do this, you should know that expensive track time is not necessary. Buy a steering wheel from www.logitech.com for your computer and learn how to find lines and improve your timing (when to brake, when to turn in, when to accelerate) with a racing simulation such as www.netkar-pro.com. When you can take an F3 around the Monaco track with a time under 1:40 then you know you've learned something and can apply it in real life. Then try it out at a local indoor kart track for more (relatively) inexpensive experience.
rvenom
10-29-2007, 02:51 PM
:thumbup:
wow, I'm surprised I haven't seen the "track" response yet.
If you're concerned about your warranty but want to make the car quicker, the first mod is the driver. Take it to a high-performance driver's education and learn how to drive the car quickly on a racetrack. That will make you quicker without voiding the warranty.
I guess if you have to mod something without voiding the warranty, mod the tires as that could help you corner quickly.
I've got tons of suggestions for modding in general, but if warranty is an issue, best to leave the car alone.
medicalstudent
10-31-2007, 01:04 AM
I imagine most people who look for mod advice never actually take to heart the advice for learning how to drive.
It's also funny that many of us also know the "true" answer, yet still go buy go-fast parts and worship that fast (er...I mean "false") idol (me included). :D
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