Please Help My 06 S!!!! (K&N Intake)

[Mr.BlueAP2]

Hey guys i have a problem with my intake setup on my 06. It is A K&N 63 Series Intake Kits or AirCharger. Part# 63-3514. A friend and i put it on. And i noticed that we did not use all the parts can please help me with a picture or perhaps some advice.. Do 06's have an air injection pump
on the stock intake tube??:light:


The two things that are hooked up on the intake is the air temprature sensor and the crank case vent hose. we never even drilled a hole for the air temprature sensor assuming that the two hole already on the intake were for the air sensor. so this mean it is installed incorrectly.. :think:

I will take picture in the morning to show you. :(

[smac2K]

REPIV will help you....I am sure he will be on soon...He is our resident genius...

:smack:

[Mr.BlueAP2]

Thanks Man...

[geists2k]

Moved to XViper's Den.

[Stratocaster]

The MY06-07 does not have an air injection pump.It also does not have a few other vac lines either. So having extra parts is not a problem. I assume you installed the air flow sensor in the intake tube?

As for an installed picture in a MY06-07, there are none. How about you post a picture of your install so we can referance that the next time someone asks?

[Mr.BlueAP2]

sounds good to me. I'll post in the morning.

[repiv]

Stratocaster said it pretty well. The '06 and '07 cars are significantly different than previous ones. No air pump for one thing and different sensor in different location. I haven't seen a CAI installed on the newer cars, but it seems reasonable that any sensors that are in things that are removed and replaced, need to go onto the K&N parts and situated in a similar orientation as it did on the OEM piping. The hole that normally feeds the air pump needs to be plugged if it's not the proper size to accommodate the sensor.

In case you don't have it, here is the PDF file on the K&N installation for an S2000.

http://www.kandn.com/instructions/63-3514.pdf

Looks like steps 10 through 17 can be ignored with your model year of car and thus the parts supplied by K&N for those steps are not used. Step 28 can also be ignored.
Pay particular attention to all steps in #26 (a - d) and 28a and 28b.

[smac2K]

I told you he would show up and help you! :laugh:

:thumbsup: Dave!

:smack:

[geras003]

Sorry for damp question - what is the advantage of having k&N filter?

[repiv]

Sorry for damp question - what is the advantage of having k&N filter?

The K&N FIPK (like the Comptech), draws its air via the hole in the fender wall and thus, is more resistent to sucking in water (hydrolocking) as the AEM, Injen, Fujita types "could" do during heavy rains.

Now, if you're asking what's the advantage of K&N over Comptech, then this becomes more complicated. The K&N uses a cotton gauze filter while the Comptech (now defunct) uses a foam type. Both are (or used to be) oiled filters. Some say that the foam type filters better while others say the gauze type flows better. Which do you consider to be more important? You can't always have both.

[CD7SiRAccord]

Some say that the foam type filters better while others say the gauze type flows better.

I thought it was the other way around. :confused:

[Chris S]

I thought it was the other way around. :confused:

Modern dirt bikes (where air filters are much, much more critical) almost universally use foam filters, if that tells you anything. K&N sells dirt bike/ATV filters, but I don't know of anyone who actually uses them.

[repiv]

I thought it was the other way around. :confused:

I may be talking out my butt, however, thing about it. Why would K&N say that their filters protect better if you let them get a bit dirtier? ;)
Prove it for yourself .............................................
Take brand new filters (2), both for the same car, but one is a gauze type and one is a foam type. A cone type works well for this. Shove a lightbulb inside each one and look for light. The gauze type will show pinholes of light coming through. Which one do you think will let more air through? This is assuming that each product utilizes the same overall thickness of filtration media. If you ever dissected one of each, you would know which media is actually thinner. The K&N only looks thick because of the pleats.

[Mr.BlueAP2]

Can anyone tell how to get pictures on here thanks...

[CD7SiRAccord]

I may just be thinking of foam type filter's like say for example the HKS Mega flow filter. Looking at a Spoon filter, I realize that it is not near as porous as the HKS, and I'm probably just making a broad generalization from the HKS. I also do know that people with HKS Mega Flow intakes compared to gauze type or paper filters on vehicles equiped with MAF's, it tends to lean the car out because of increased airflow. I'll definitely have to try out that experiment sometime :thumbup:

[Mr.BlueAP2]

Ok.. The two inlet's that are already on the intake Where do they hook up?? That's the only problem we are having. thanks:sad:

[repiv]

I also do know that people with HKS Mega Flow intakes compared to gauze type or paper filters on vehicles equiped with MAF's, it tends to lean the car out because of increased airflow.

You can't compare a guaze filter with a paper filter - quite different in form and function. Also, when you compare a gauze with a foam, you have to take note of the thickness of the foam layer. For example, if you examine the Comptech CAI filter and compare with the equivalent gauze replacement, you will see the obvious difference. I've seen some of those ultra high performance foam filters that utilize a foam strip thinner than what you would find on a lawn mower. The K&N lets in quite a bit of crap when clean. I wouldn't run a thin foam filter on a daily driver - just not a safe or reliable way to go. Sure, use one for a day at the track, but that's about as far as I would go.

[repiv]

Ok.. The two inlet's that are already on the intake Where do they hook up?? That's the only problem we are having. thanks:sad:

Take a look at the link to the PDF file. The one that points towards the head is for the front valve cover breather. The one that points the other way is for the air pump, which you don't have, so you use the supplied plug to close it off. For the air temp sensor, you need to drill a new hole and install the supplied rubber grommet.
The pictures in that link tells all.

[CD7SiRAccord]

Haha I should have known better than to question a man who has his own technical forum. lol

:thumbup: Repiv

[S2KFAST]

The K&N FIPK (like the Comptech), draws its air via the hole in the fender wall and thus, is more resistent to sucking in water (hydrolocking) as the AEM, Injen, Fujita types "could" do during heavy rains.

Now, if you're asking what's the advantage of K&N over Comptech, then this becomes more complicated. The K&N uses a cotton gauze filter while the Comptech (now defunct) uses a foam type. Both are (or used to be) oiled filters. Some say that the foam type filters better while others say the gauze type flows better. Which do you consider to be more important? You can't always have both.
XVIPER
Let's get it right for a change: K&N vs Defunct COMTPECH. 1st defunct is not the right word.
try the owner. i.e Pardners, agreed to disagree on the Co. Direction. They had money $$$
in the bank & back orders thur Oct-07. Defunct NO.!
Their dyno tests: Give their filter: Avr 10 runs 1.7HP more K&N in a stock S2K.
As far as water intake is concerned. Who's fool enough to drive thru 1' deep water with their
love.????
How do I know about Comptech. Try this this. I live 6 mi from their shop in El Dorado Hills,Ca.

An they have doing work on my cars for over 12Yrs.
S2KFAST...

[repiv]

XVIPER
Let's get it right for a change: K&N vs Defunct COMTPECH. 1st defunct is not the right word.
try the owner. i.e Pardners, agreed to disagree on the Co. Direction. They had money $$$
in the bank & back orders thur Oct-07. Defunct NO.!
Their dyno tests: Give their filter: Avr 10 runs 1.7HP more K&N in a stock S2K.
As far as water intake is concerned. Who's fool enough to drive thru 1' deep water with their
love.????
How do I know about Comptech. Try this this. I live 6 mi from their shop in El Dorado Hills,Ca.

An they have doing work on my cars for over 12Yrs.
S2KFAST...

A. Let's talk about the word "defunct". Do you actually know the definition of "defunct"? Let's see what the dictionary says ..................................
de·funct /dɪˈfʌŋkt/
–adjective 1. no longer in effect or use; not operating or functioning: a defunct law; a defunct organization.
2. no longer in existence; dead; extinct: a defunct person; a defunct tribe of Indians.
–noun 3. the defunct, the dead person referred to: the survivors of the defunct.


No, I'd say the use of the word defunct in reference to Comptech is correct in this context. What do YOU think it means? For all intents and purposes, Comptech no longer has any kind of relationship with their retail clients (that means you and me) as they used. To, that means they no longer exist in the same context as they used to.

B. Dyno tests! You're kidding, right? You actually consider that 1.7 HP for a dyno in the 200 HP envelope is significantly different from ZERO? Please go take some math and statistics classes before you go shouting throughout the land that 1.7 HP means anything, because it doesn't.

C. So you live 6 miles from Comptech. What does that prove? NOTHING! I've been in contact with someone who has talked to someone in the Comptech office and also to Chad for a couple of hours about the whole situation. You do know Chad, don't you? What does that prove? The same NOTHING! People used to live next door to Chernoble and 3 Mile Island. Do you think they knew what was going on? I don't understand your argument.

[repiv]

My last reply was between running out on emergency responses. Now that I have more time to respond, I'd like to add ..............................

Originally Posted by S2KFAST
XVIPER
Let's get it right for a change
"for a change"? This would imply that I'm always WRONG. I hereby challenge you on this front. Let's take a look at YOUR posting here in the short time and limited number of posts to see where YOU stand. :poke: Now take a look at MY posting here. I'm not even going to go into my history on the "other" S2000 forum. I'll leave this one up to readers here. In the "old days", I would put up everything you'd ever posted and do an in-depth analysis of it. I left the other forum after 6 years and 30,000 posts because I simply got fed up with having to waste my time trying to explain stuff to people who had no capacity to understand or comprehend what's being presented. I'm not willing to do that here to that same extent. It's just far easier to IGNORE someone who lacks such capacity.

Originally Posted by S2KFAST
i.e Pardners
"Pardners"? Have you actually finish school? Or did you fall asleep during english class. Check out all your previous posts here and it's painfully obvious that your educational background is in question. I'm talking about grammer, spelling, sentence structure, word usage. An internet forum is a written medium. Hard to tell what you are trying to convey when writing skills are so deficient.

Who's fool enough to drive thru 1' deep water with their
love.????

You haven't kept up, have you? Most of the hydrolocks that have happened with this car has been a result of the car with a low mounted CAI filter being PARKED in a heavy rainstorm. I'll let you search the net to find out why this is the case.

An they have doing work on my cars for over 12Yrs.
Again, what is the relevence of this statement to the present day circumstances and even more importantly, to this thread? Remember, the topic here is a comparison of a gauze type filter to a similar foam type filter. My reference to Comptech was merely to indicate that the general private sector consumer can no longer call up Comptech and buy one of these filters, so as not to mislead anyone into thinking they can still get these directly from Comptech.

[repiv]

The silence has been deafening, but lots of noises being made here:

http://forums.s2kca.com/showthread.php?t=13725&highlight=comptech