Real brake ducts

[Duke]

Does anyone know whether there are any aftermarket kits that will turn the S2000's fake brake duct openings in the front fascia into the real thing? Seems like a natural, but I can't find any. Those little fakes are the only disappointing note in the S2000's exterior, IMHO.

[rstark]

The only ones I've seen for sale (other than making your own) are here. (http://www.hondas2000accessories.com/S2000airflow.htm)

[WestSideBilly]

it's pretty much a do-it-yourself project.

[Duke]

Thanks you guys! The link is interesting; it might be a good start for a DIY project that turns them into actual brake ducts. If I do it, I'll post some photos.

[monkeymaker]

It isn't hard to do, and the results are nice, especially on the track. :)

[hecash]

Look here:

http://www.s2ki.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13903&perpage=25&pagenumber=1

And:

http://www.s2ki.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=137034

toot, toot

[CBender]

Shameless self promotion on your part, Harry... :)

[Ulrich]

Originally posted by hecash
Look here:

http://www.s2ki.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13903&perpage=25&pagenumber=1
Slightly off-topic, but it's funny when you look at who posted to that thread, and what their current status is... "banned", "in the panalty box", etc...

Oh well. :rolleyes:

[stingerbtry]

Originally posted by Ulrich
Slightly off-topic, but it's funny when you look at who posted to that thread, and what their current status is... "banned", "in the panalty box", etc...

Oh well. :rolleyes:

That's the price you pay for adding useful information to a thread. Some people never learn:p

[Greg Stevens]

Originally posted by stingerbtry
That's the price you pay for adding useful information to a thread. Some people never learn:p

Yes, and adding information that people can actually use is strictly forbidden there!

:rolleyes: :lol3:



But King still doesn't have a kit for this. I think they could have sold a ton of them, but I guess they never saw the value. It isn't had to do though. It appears that Honda actually sorta kinda had this in mind when you take the front fascia off and see how the plastic slats look...you will notice that there is what appears to be a lip or a receiver for ducting to affix to. That makes that side easy. Get hose clamps that are big enough to surround the tube and the lip and you have the front piece all ready to go.

Make sure you have enough ducting to route it through, but also take into account when the wheels are ar full/opposite lock. You will have to make sure the tube clears when turning the wheel at the maximums.

The part that affixes to the business end of the ducting is the tricky part. King set up mine by cutting a hold in the shield/plate on the inside of the rotors and then welded a receiver for the ducting on to that, the used hoseclamps to hold them to the receiver. They also used nylons zip ties along the length of the tube to have it not move around at all.


Now, issues and complaints...

During the time that I was having this done, every time I would go to a CART race or any kind of race at Road America or something like that, I would take notice of where the brake ducts would bring the air onto. Some ducts would vent on to the rotor, some would vent right on to the caliper. So that got me to thinking...what IS the appropriate place to vent? The most logical answer to me was, "well, the place that needs the cool air is the place that generates the heat!" And that place is where the friction occurs...at the pads! So, and I'm not 100% sure how you would do this on the S2000, but having the venting come out as closely/directly to the pads as possible would be the way to go. I think venting right on to the rotors isn't going to hurt, but I don't it's the most effective place to vent. That is my feeling on the whole thing...

My biggest complaint was with the material that King used for the ducting. It was a metal wire spiral wrapped with some kind of heavy duty plastic or maybe some kind of PVC product. The problem was that in subesquent removals of the front end, the ends of the ducting would fray badly decreasing the lenght of the duct substantially over time.

Were I to do this again, I would use a different type of ducting material...one that does NOT have the wire spiral for support. I would use a high grade, flexible solid PVC or some other kind of material that can withstand the heat when it's so close to the rotor/caliper.

Hope that helps!

[stingerbtry]

I personally would think that the rotors would build up the most heat and that they would do better with added cooling. I think that the idea of the fanned adges is to disipate heat and having more air blow across the venting on the front rotors would help the cooling process along. Either way would be an improvement however, but I have mostly seen the rotors as the target for ducted cooling.